Difference between revisions of "User talk:Arioch"

Latest revision as of 18:18, 11 January 2019

Hi Arioch, just wanted to let you know I updated the table in the Holiday Awakening page to reflect the discount we get for the December 2017 Awakening event. It's around 50% reduced (which is way more than I expected actually LOL). I didn't confirm the 50% with all of the monsters but it did show that pattern with the ones I tested. I think the discount is only limited to this event which is why I'm not changing the main Awakening table. - Jarrbox

shes def not pullable low print and from event- User:bananadog2000 although if youd find one for me at a pullable price ill buy her

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Actually, I was just thinking a few days ago how I need to change the card page format haha, just part of the long laundry list of improvements I'm trying to implement in between life stuff.

Anyways, until I can figure out where the game keeps the back card information in the game files, probably screenshotting it will have to do, but I'll add a place for Lv1 stats and the little description thing into the Infobox since it's probably simple to add. I'm still learning how to use Mediawiki though so sorry in advance if I break anything in the process!

I've actually tried a long time ago to characterize the leveling of units (back when 7*s were the highest rarity) but I couldn't find any particular pattern. Nowadays it's probably more simple though. The closest I could get was find the formula for most 9-11* ATK and HP ascension values, since they're very straightforward. I actually put it here in case you were interested. However, I know there are at least a few units that don't follow that pattern, which is really annoying. I'm almost convinced they changed the formula for the cards multiple times over the years, probably in response to newer rarities of cards becoming more common, so that doesn't help either.

Soul stats are completely doable though. I think it's just a matter of dividing the stats by 5, but I can double check and whip up a table and put it on the souls page for reference.

Thank you for your suggestions! I might not be able to fix the card back stuff right away but I can probably get some of the rest done today. ~Jarrbox

Oh, I think I misunderstood what you were telling me before xD I actually have no idea how to access the database aside from the links on the lefthand side. Heck, I don't even have permissions to delete pages on the wiki xD Most I can do is probably add an extra table on every single card page, which isn't very practical. If I do somehow figure out the database thing though, I would love to add automatic calculations and soul stuff to the display tables on each card page. Would make my life sooooo much easier, that's for sure!

Really sorry about the X & Z stuff! I defined them in the little collapsible text box beneath the formulas but forgot to define them outside of the box. Oops!

I don't think there's any known formula for stats, that I know of anyways. I want to say there's a page about it somewhere but I can't remember where it is, if it exists. I can see if I can maybe plot the Lv1, Max, and MLB levels of a handful of units and see if 3 data points are enough to make any comparisons! That will probably take a while though. The external table you provided will probably be helpful for that.

I wonder if it would be worth creating a page just for these kinds of formulas and stuff, just so everything is in one place.

And yeah, I know they got rid of the "back art," but they have to have the information on the back of the card somewhere hidden in that code. Never tried looking through the data files though. Didn't have time to really learn about it, and frankly probably never will :(

I think the "raw uploads" Google drive thing was probably just poor wording. I clicked on it a long time ago expecting a treasure trove of data and stuff, but alas, it was only filled with instructions. In hindsight, I probably should've changed the wording once I knew, haha.

Another thing that probably needs updating is the how-to's for editing anything on the wiki. Plus updating and adding more detailed descriptions for events and older pages like Leana's Exchange Shop and the Brave Card Packs. More things to add to the laundry list!

I think the creator of this site, plus everyone who worked on the wiki before me, all quit before I could really understand how to maintain the wiki. The only other person besides me that I know edits the wiki frequently is Kittylitter, and you as well if you consider yourself an editor. I was thinking of making a discord or something so it would be easier for everyone to communicate but I didn't know if one already existed or if it's even worth it for a game this old.

Anyways, the database thing might be out of my hands unless I magically figure it out, but I'll see what I can do about everything else! ~Jarrbox

Ohh, interesting. That makes sense though, thanks for explaining it to me!

My hope with updating the tutorials and stuff is that maybe more people would be inclined to help edit all weekly/monthly stuff if it's easier to understand what/how/why it needs to be updated. It'll probably never happen and will probably just be a waste of time, but a girl can dream :) Even if not for other wiki editors though, it would help me remember all the things that need updating, haha.

I do agree that the raw stats are probably useless though, especially since the latest unit is usually the strongest and a lot of people (like me) collect cards based on the art instead of the stats. It just bothers me that the stats on the card pages are incomplete and will probably never be completed realistically without access to the database :(

Also I feel ya with the Adley pulls... Seems like the more you want a unit, the less likely you're gonna get it >_<

Actually, I just discovered while looking at older 10*s that they actually changed the stats for them at some point. Like I knew which units I added stats for maybe a year or two ago, and I knew that back then the HP was easily divided by 10 for ascension. Looks like they added a small amount of HP to multiple 10*s (maybe all 10*s, or even all cards for all I know) such that the ascension stat for HP is divided by 10.1 instead. The atk stats remained unchanged though. Idk, really weird. But only makes finding an equation for the stats more worthwhile, right? Hahaha ~Jarrbox

I'm not sure I know what you are referring too. Can you give me an example?